7/22/2003 - Council Minutes - CC Minutes Reg Meeting
APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 12, 2003
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES ORANGE CALIFORNIA
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OF A REGULAR MEETING July 22, 2003
The City Council of the City of Orange, California convened on July 22, 2003 at 4:30 p.m. in a
Regular Meeting in the Council Chambers, 300 E. Chapman Avenue, Orange, California.
4:30 P.M. SESSION
1. OPENING
1.1 INVOCATION
Given by Pastor Dwayne Smets, Plaza Bible Church
1.2 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
Led by Mayor Murphy
1.3 ROLL CALL
PRESENT - Ambriz, Alvarez, Mayor Murphy, Coontz
ABSENT - Cavecche (Mayor pro tern Cavecche was present at the 7:00 p.m. Session)
1.4 PRESENTATIONS/ ANNOUNCEMENTS/ INTRODUCTIONS
Resolution presented to Ken Romero for eight years of service on the Planning
Commission.
Resolution presented to Paul Lobato of the Community Services Department upon his
retirement from the City of Orange after 35 years of service.
Resolution to Terry Quintard of the Community Services Department upon his retirement
from the City of Orange after 35 years of service. NOTE: Terry Quintard was not
present.
The following employees received Service Awards
Andy Romero - Police; Craig Brown - Police (not present); Michelle Chapman - Police
(not present); David Jensen - Police; David Nichols - Police; David Orona - Police
(not present); David Hoff ~ Fire (not present); Mike Wellins - Police
Mayor Murphy announced an Orange resident, Rob Rohrn, has been chosen as a finalist
to have an opportunity to bat against Baseball Pitcher Nolan Ryan, as part of a contest
sponsored by Baby Ruth. He encouraged voting for Rob Rohrn on the web site
www.babyruth.com; and wished Mr. Rohrn good luck in the contest.
2. PUBLIC COMMENTS - None.
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3. CONSENT CALENDAR
All items on the Consent Calendar are considered routine and are enacted by one motion
approving the recommended action listed on the Agenda. Any member of the City
Council, staff or the public may request an item be removed from the Consent Calendar
for discussion or separate action. Unless otherwise specified in the request to remove an
item from the Consent Calendar, all items removed shall be considered immediately
following action on the remaining items on the Consent Calendar.
3.1 Declaration of City Clerk, Cassandra J. Cathcart, declaring posting of City Council
agenda of a regular meeting of July 22, 2003 at Orange Civic Center City Clerk's
Office, north facing kiosk, Main Library at 101 N. Center Street, Police facility at
1107 North Batavia, Shaffer Park, and available on the City's Website
www.cityoforange.org; all of said locations being in the City of Orange and freely
accessible to members of the public at least 72 hours before commencement of said
regular meeting.
ACTION: Accepted Declaration of Agenda Posting and authorized its retention as a
public record in the Office of the City Clerk.
3.2 Request Council Confirmation of warrant registers dated July 3, 8 and 10, 2003.
ACTION:
Approved.
3.3 Request approval of City Council Minutes, Regular Meeting of July 8, 2003.
ACTION:
Approved.
3.4 Consideration to waive reading in full of all ordinances on the Agenda.
ACTION:
Approved.
3.5 Receive and file the City Treasurer's Report for the period ending June 30, 2003.
ACTION:
Received and Filed.
AGREEMENTS
(REMOVED AND HEARD SEPARATELY)
3.6 Renewal of the Agreement between Wittman Enterprises and the City of Orange for
EMT Transportation Program billing services. (A2100.0 AGR-2599.B)
SUMMARY: Wittman Enterprises is the current contractor for Fire Department EMT
Transportation Program billing. Their job is to collect the fees and charges generated
when Fire Department personnel treat and/or transport citizens to the hospital. The
contract between Wittman and the City of Orange is due to expire August 31, 2003. The
Fire Department is recommending renewal.
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3. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued)
Discussion
Councilmember Ambriz commented on the importance of the Paramedic subscription
service and the great job the Fire Department is doing.
Mayor Murphy noted the Paramedic subscription service is $36 per year and supports the
goals of the Paramedic program.
MOTION - Ambriz
SECOND - Alvarez
AYES - Ambriz, Alvarez, Mayor Murphy, Coontz
ABSENT - Cavecche
ACTION: Authorized the Mayor and City Clerk to execute a Third Amendment
Agreement for Billing Services on behalf of the City and Wittman extending the
agreement for three years.
FISCAL IMPACT: Funds have been budgeted in the following accounts to pay Wittman
Enterprises:
125-3015-426700 - Other Professional and Contractual Services - $90,000.
100-3022-426700 - Other Professional and Contractual Services - $60,824.
3.7 Approval of Agreement to Fund Nutrient, Fecal Coliform and Toxics Total
Maximum Daily Load (TMDL) Studies in the Newport Bay Watershed (Agreement
No. D99-128). (A2100.0 AGR-4326)
SUMMARY: The City of Orange requests approval of Agreement to Fund Nutrient
Fecal Coliform and Toxics Total Maximum Daily Loan (TMDL) Studies in the Newport
Bay Watershed (Agreement No. D99-128; herein the "Cooperative Agreement") between
the County of Orange, the Orange County Flood Control District, the Irvine Ranch Water
District (IRWD), The Irvine Company, and the City of Costa Mesa, the City of Irvine, the
City of Laguna Hills, the City of Laguna Woods, the City of Lake Forest, the City of
Newport Beach, the City of Orange, the City of Santa Ana, and the City of Tustin (the
"Watershed Cities").
ACTION: I) Approved the Cooperative Agreement and authorized the City Manager to
execute on behalf of the City and to do any and all things necessary to implement the
Cooperative Agreement.
FISCAL IMP ACT: Under the agreement, the costs are $5,284 for FY 02-03 and $5,830
for FY 03-04. Funds are available in the Public Works operating budget in the
Professional Services Account No. 220-5022-426700 in the amount of $11,114.
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3. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued)
3.8 Settlement Agreement with Terra-Cal Construction, Inc. (A2100.0 AGR-3697.0.S)
SUMMARY: The Settlement Agreement represents the settlement of a lawsuit brought
by Terra-Cal Construction, Inc., against the City of Orange arising out of Terra-Cal's
work as the general contractor for the restoration and upgrade of the City's central public
square and circular Plaza at Glassell Street and Chapman Avenue and the construction of
a new parking lot across the street from City Hall.
ACTION: Approved the Settlement Agreement between the City of Orange and Terra-
Cal Construction, Inc. and authorized the Mayor to execute, and City Clerk to attest, the
Settlement Agreement for a total sum of$150,000.
FISCAL IMPACT: Funds for this Settlement Agreement are available in the following
account:
500-7021-485100-9875 General Fund Capital Projects - Plaza Area Improvements.
(REMOVED AND HEARD SEPARATELY)
3.9 Agreement with the City of Orange Public Library Foundation concerning a
fundraising opportunity during the 2003 International Street Faire. (A2100.0 AGR-
3580.A)
SUMMARY: This Agreement would allow the non-profit Library Foundation to operate
pay parking lots once again on three areas of designated City property during the
International Street Faire. It also raises the per-stall or per-vehicle parking charge to
$10.00 (from $7.00). This Agreement is new and supercedes the original Agreement
3580 enacted in 2000, which was already amended three times. In addition, this new
Agreement is only between the City and the Library Foundation, as the Community
Services Foundation (previously a co-signator) has chosen to pursue other fundraising
opportunities.
Discussion
Councilmember Ambriz suggested the Library Foundation also be able to use the parking
lot directly behind City Hall to operate as a pay parking lot during the Street Faire, and
keep the lot behind the Finance building for use by City officials.
Councilmember Coontz commented the parking lot behind Finance is used for City cars;
and suggested City cars could be moved to the Corp Yard to allow more room for
parking.
Mayor Murphy noted the suggestion to use the additional parking lot be considered but
that the final details be left to staff.
The City Manager stated staff will work with the Library Foundation on this issue.
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3. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued)
MOTION - Ambriz
SECOND - Murphy
AYES - Ambriz, Alvarez, Mayor Murphy, Coontz
ABSENT - Cavecche
ACTION: Authorized Agreement with the City of Orange Public Library Foundation to
operate pay parking lots at $10.00 per parking stall or per vehicle in three areas of
designated City property during the 2003 International Street Faire.
FISCAL IMP ACT: Because the Library Foundation will reimburse the City for staff
costs (if any) associated with the use of the parking lots as a fundraiser, there is no fiscal
impact.
BIDS
3.10 Project No. S.P. 3420; AHRP Project - Garden Grove Blvd. Rehabilitation from
The City Drive to Park Vine Street. Approval of plans and specifications and
reqnest for authorization to advertise for bids. (S4000.S.7)
Project No. S.P. 3421; AHRP Project - The City Drive Rehabilitation from Garden
Grove Blvd. To 300' south of the 22 Freeway. Approval of plans and specifications
and request for authorization to advertise for bids.
SUMMARY: Plans and specifications have been completed for Garden Grove Blvd.
Rehabilitation from The City Drive to Park Vine Street. The project is ready to be
advertised. The estimated construction cost is $296,240.
Plans and specifications have been completed for The City Drive Rehabilitation from
Garden Grove Blvd. To 300' south of the 22 Freeway. The project is ready to be
advertised. The estimated construction cost is $330,600.
The two projects are being combined into one construction project for economies of scale
and location benefits.
ACTION: 1. Approved plans and specifications and authorize advertising for bids for
the AHRP Garden Grove Blvd. Rehabilitation project. 2. Approved plans and
specifications and authorized advertising for bids for the AHRP The City Drive
Rehabilitation project.
FISCAL IMPACT: Funds are budgeted and are available in the Capital Improvement
Program in the following accounts:
1. Garden Grove Blvd. (SP-3420)
550-5011-483300-3223 FY 2003-04
272-5011-483300-3223 FY 2003-04
262-5011-483300-3223 FY 2003-04
Total
$241,410
$120,705
$120.705
$482,820
AHRP
Gas Tax 2105
MeasureM
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3. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued)
2.
The City Drive (SP-3421)
550-5011-483300-3212
272-5011-483300-3212
262-5011-483300-3212
FY 2003-04
FY 2003-04
FY 2003-04
Total
$165,316
$ 66,126
$ 99.190
$330,632
AHRP
Gas Tax 2105
MeasureM
3.11 Project No. S.P. 3426; AHRP Project - Glassell Street Rehabilitation Phase 1 from
Walnut Avenue to Mayfair Avenue. Approval of plans and specifications and
request for authorization to advertise for bids. (S4000.S.7)
SUMMARY: Plans and specifications have been completed for the Glassell Street
Rehabilitation Phase I project from Walnut Avenue to Mayfair Avenue. The project is
ready to be advertised. The estimated construction cost is $463,725.00.
ACTION: Approve plans and specifications and authorize advertising for bids for the
AHRP Glassell Street Rehabilitation Phase I project.
FISCAL IMP ACT: Funds are budgeted and are available in the Capital Improvement
Program in the following accounts:
550-5011-483300-3224 FY 2003-04
272-5011-483300-3224 FY 2003-04
262-5011-483300-3224 FY 2003-04
Total
$279,324
$122,960
$165,000
$567,284
AHRP
Gas Tax
MeasureM
3.12 CLAIMS
SUMMARY: The following claim(s) have been received and investigated by the City
Attorney's Office and/or the Risk Manager. After a thorough investigation with the
involved departments, it is the recommendation of the City Attorney's Office that the
claim( s) be denied.
a. Stanley Ash
b. Linda Lyons
c. Southern California Edison
d. Lydia M. Tercero
ACTION: Denied Claim(s) for damages and referred to City Attorney and Adjuster.
CONTRACTS
3.13 Contract Change Order No.1 to Hardy & Harper, Inc. for asphalt replacement at
Wanda Collins facility, Orange, CA 92867, Bid No. 023-18 (A2100.0 AGR-4264)
SUMMARY: In May of2003, the City entered into a contract with Hardy & Harper, Inc.
for asphalt replacement at the Wanda Collins Water and Fire facility. Additional asphalt
concrete and aggregate base are needed to complete the project due to unexpected soil
conditions.
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3. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued)
ACTION: Approved the Contract Change Order No. 1 in the amount of $7,258.91 to
Hardy & Harper, Inc. for the additional materials.
FISCAL IMP ACT: Funds are budgeted in the Capital Improvement Program for the
Water Division and are available in the following account:
601-5021-481105-4997 $7,258.91 Municipal Parking Lot Maintenance
DONATIONS
3.14 Accept donation from an Orange resident to the Fire Paramedic Program (C2500.H)
SUMMARY: An Orange resident has donated a check in the amount of $648.07 to be
used to support the Fire Department's Fire/Rescue program.
ACTION: Amended the revenue budget 100-3022-293900 (Paramedic Donations) -
$648.07 and appropriate funds to 100-3022-471301 (Paramedic Furniture, Machinery &
Equipment) $648.07.
FISCAL IMPACT: The $648.07 donation will augment the Fire/Rescue (Paramedic)
budget.
RESOLUTIONS
3.15 RESOLUTION NO. 9762 (C3300. CUP 2417-02)
A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Orange denying Conditional Use Permit
No. 2417-02 and Administrative Adjustment No. 03-4, which sought to allow the
expansion of an existing facility for women and their children at 655 South Glassell
Street - The Eli Home, Inc.
Note: Counci1member Ambriz voted No.
ACTION: Approved.
VOTING DELEGATE
3.16 Designate Mayor pro tern Cavecche as voting delegate for the City of Orange at the
2003 League of California Cities Annual Conference, September 7 through 10,2003
in Sacramento. (No staffreuort required)
ACTION: Approved.
MOTION - Alvarez
SECOND - Ambriz
AYES - Ambriz, Alvarez, Mayor Murphy, Coontz
ABSENT - Cavecche
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3. CONSENT CALENDAR (Continued)
Items 3.6 and 3.9 were removed and heard separately. Councilmember Ambriz voted No
on Item 3.15. All other items on the Consent Calendar were approved as recommended.
END OF CONSENT CALENDAR
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4.
REPORTS FROM MAYOR MURPHY
TAPE 800
4.1 Appointments to the Investment Advisory Committee and Design Review
Committee. (OR1800.0.27.13)
Mayor Murphy suggested the appointment of Eric Inglett to the Investment Advisory
Committee, as his educational and professional experience would be a great asset to the
Committee.
MOTION - Murphy
SECOND - Alvarez
AYES - Ambriz, Alvarez, Mayor Murphy, Coontz
ABSENT - Cavecche
Moved to appoint Eric Inglett to the Investment Advisory Committee
5. REPORTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS - None.
6. REPORTS FROM BOARDS, COMMITTEES, AND COMMISSIONS
6.1 Accept the resignation of Richard Yarger from the City Traffic Commission,
effective August 7, 2003; and instruct the City Clerk to begin Maddy Act regulations.
(OR1800.0.19)
MOTION - Coontz
SECOND - Alvarez
AYES - Ambriz, Alvarez, Mayor Murphy, Coontz
ABSENT - Cavecche
Moved to accept, with regrets, the resignation of Richard Yarger from the City Traffic
Commission, effective August 7, 2003, and instruct the City Clerk to begin Maddy Act
regulations.
7.
ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS
TAPE 870
7.1 Report from the Personnel Director - Salary adjustments required by the City of
Orange Police Management Association Memorandum of Understanding effective June 29,
2003. (C2500.K)
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7. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS (Continued)
SUMMARY: Per the Memorandum of Understanding (MOD) between the City of Orange and
the Orange Police Management Association (Resolution No. 9386), a salary increase is required
to compensate each classification covered by this MOU at the survey median of eleven (II) pre-
selected Orange County cities. The total cost for this salary adjustment for Fiscal Year 2003-04
is $168,000.
Discussion
Stephen Pharo, Personnel Director, explained this proposed salary increase will place Orange
Police employees at the median of the market place and is important in order to retain good
employees.
In response to questions from Councilmember Alvarez, Mr. Pharo stated the cities surveyed were
Anaheim, Brea, Costa Mesa, Fountain Valley, Fullerton, Garden Grove, Huntington Beach,
Irvine, Newport Beach, Santa Ana and Westminster; and Orange is competing with these cities,
some smaller and some larger, for Police Officers
Councilmember Alvarez stated it is important for Orange to be competitive and retain Police
Officers.
MOTION - Alvarez
SECOND - Coontz
AYES - Ambriz, Alvarez, Mayor Murphy, Coontz
ABSENT - Cavecche
ACTION: Authorized the Finance Department to implement salary increases retroactive to June
29, 2003. Additionally, authorized an appropriation in the amount of $164,680 from the
unreserved General Fund balance and an additional $3,320 from the Fund 120 (Prop 172)
unreserved fund balance to the appropriate Police Department salary accounts.
FISCAL IMPACT: Adequate funds are available in the General Fund unreserved fund balance
and Fund 120 (Prop 172) unreserved fund balance for the $168,000 appropriation.
8. REPORTS FROM CITY MANAGER - None.
9. LEGAL AFFAIRS - None.
10. RECESS TO THE MEETING OF THE ORANGE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
11. RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION
The City Council recessed at 5:20 p.m. to a Closed Session for the following purposes:
a. Conference with Real Property Negotiators pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.8
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11. RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION (Continued)
1) Property: 124-145 and 164-180 S. Water Street, Orange, CA
Agency Negotiator: Linda Boone
Negotiation Parties: City of Orange, Orange Redevelopment Agency and Orange County
Fire Authority
Under Negotiation: Price and terms of payment
2) Property: Various segments of Tustin Branch Trail
City Negotiator: David Rudat, Gary Wann, Harry Thomas
Negotiating Parties: City of Orange and Union Pacific Railroad
Under Negotiation: Price and terms of payment, if any
Note: Did not discuss
b. Conference with Legal Counsel - Existing Litigation pursuant to Government Code Section
54956.9(a):
(1) Terra-Cal Construction, Inc. v. City of Orange, Orange County Superior Court Case No.
02CC11738.
c. To consider and take possible action upon such other matters as are orally announced by the
City Attorney, City Manager, or City Council prior to such recess unless the motion to recess
indicates any of the matters will not be considered in Closed Session.
7:00 P.M. SESSION
12. PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mary Ann Skorpanich, County of Orange, provided information on available grant funding for
parks.
Patrick Mitchell, 156 S. Citrus, encouraged the city to seek park funding opportunities; and
spoke on the Santa Ana River Conservancy.
Sue Craig, address on file, encouraged the city to seek funding and grant opportunities for parks
and suggested the City hire a part-time grant writer.
Tom Godley, Orange Unified School District, Assistant Superintendent, provided copies of
communications from the District regarding 20 acres at the Sully Miller site for school purposes.
Shirley Grindle, address on file, spoke on the Santa Ana Conservancy as it related to Santiago
Creek.
Jeanne Carter, Santa Ana, spoke on the need for more parks.
Marilyn Ganahl, 7425 Lewis Dr., spoke on funding and grant sources for land acquisition for
parks and submitted a letter from The Trust for Public Land.
Bill Bouska, 270 N. Malena, spoke on the Master Plan of Park Facilities.
David Piper, 6705 E. Oak Lane, spoke on the economic advantages parks bring to a city.
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13.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
TAPE 2400
13.1 APPEAL NO. 492 - GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 1-01, ZONE CHANGE
1208-00, TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 15750, MINOR SITE PLAN REVIEW 249-02,
VARIANCE 2113-02, FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT 1647-00
FIELDSTONE COMMUNITIES, INC. (A4000.0 APP-492)
Time set for public hearing to consider an appeal of the Planning Commission's denial of
General Plan Amendment 1-01. The applicant is proposing to develop approximately 109 acres
with 180 single-family residences. The proposal includes the dedication of six acres for a public
park and dedicating for permanent open space 40 acres for the preservation of the Santiago
Creek Channel. The subject site is located north of Santiago Canyon Road, east of Cannon
Avenue, south of the Mabury Ranch Community, and west of Santiago Oaks Regional Park and
the Reserve development. To implement the proposal the applicant has applied for the
following:
General Plan Amendment 1-01 proposes to change 44 acres from Resource Area (RA) to
Open-Space OS and 53 acres from RA to Low-Density Residential, 2 to 6 dwelling units per acre
(LDR), and to delete portions of the subject site from the Orange Park Acres Plan and East
Orange General Plan.
Zone Change 1208-00 proposes to change 44 acres from Sand and Gravel (SG) to Recreation -
Open-Space (R-O), 6 acres from SG to R-I-20 (Residential, single-family, minimum lot size
20,000 sq. ft.), 26 acres from SG to R-I-8 (Residential, single-family, minimum lot size 8,000
sq. ft.), and 21 acres from SG to R-I-6 (Residential, single-family, minimum lot size 6, 000 sq.
ft.).
Tentative Tract Map 15750 proposes to subdivide the subject site into lots for the development
of single-family residences and the dedication of permanent open space.
Minor Site Plan Review 249-02 proposes to subdivide the subject site into lots without direct
access from a public street.
Variance 2113-02 requests a waiver of development standards for the creation of one residential
lot that does not comply with the minimum development standards contained in the City's
Zoning Ordinance.
Note: Final Environmental Impact Report 1647-00 was prepared to evaluate the environmental
impacts of developing the subject site.
Staff Report
Alice Angus, Community Development Director, reviewed the site plan, pointing out lot sizes,
park acreage, trails and bridge placement over Santiago Creek; and reviewed a proposed
alternative to the project which provides a private horse stable facility and changes lot sizes and
the number oflots from 180 to 183.
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
The following key issues of the proposal were reviewed by the Community Development
Director:
Safety - this property is adjacent to a former land fill site, currently owned by the County
Integrated Waste Management Agency. Concern has been expressed about landfill gas
migration. The County's local enforcement agency, who is responsible for monitoring and
remediation plans for former landfill sites, is confident that the proposed mitigation measures
adequately protect the project from any potential impacts from landfill gas migration. One of the
mitigation measures requires that monitoring devices be placed on the Fieldstone property within
a 1000 foot buffer zone; but is not specific about who performs the monitoring, which is
something that would have to be determined.
Flood Control- there has been concern with the treatment of the channel and whether the area is
currently within a flood plain and also concern with flood control improvements and dam
inundation as this is downstream from Villa Park Dam. FEMA has submitted a letter making
revisions to the flood map, indicating the residential development is not within the 100 year
flood plain. Regarding flood protection facilities, the City has been insistent that creek
maintenance for flood control is not the responsibility of the City or the homeowners association.
Therefore, the developer has worked with the County to develop a design that met the City's
criteria of having a natural look and also meets the County's criteria to provide adequate
protection to both sides of the creek and can also be maintained.
Dam Inundation -- environmental documents recognize that if there is a catastrophic dam failure
there could be inundation of this area. In recognizing that, the General Plan does not prohibit
development downstream from dams, but looks at emergency evacuation procedures. The dam
is not used as a reservoir, but used for flood control purposes, in that there are controlled releases
from the dam. The map for dam inundation is up to date and accurate.
Truck Traffic -- Staff recognizes that Mabury Street is not a truck route and reached an
agreement with the developer to use the creek bridge for heavy construction for the development
north of the creek. The only truck traffic from the north will be in the initial stages of bridge
construction.
Trail System - the project proposes a trail system that complies with the Master Plan of
Recreational Trails except there is not a grade separated crossing at Santiago Canyon Road. The
applicant is proposing that there be an at-grade crossing at the major intersection into the
development for equestrian traffic and is reserving a lot that could accommodate a grade
separated crossing on the north side of Santiago Canyon, but is not proposing to build that
crossmg.
Public Park / Open Space - the applicant is proposing 40 acres of open space and a treatment for
the creek to keep it as natural as possible; and is dedicating a six acre public park. The original
park improvements included basic landscaping with a small parking lot and restroom facilities;
but the applicant may now be willing to offer more funding for park improvements.
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
Council Questions
TAPE 3170
In response to a request by Councilmember Coontz, Ms. Angus reviewed some of the major
documents and their corresponding attachment numbers provided in the Council packet.
Councilmember Coontz asked about the Villa Park Dam. This issue dates back to the 1970s.
She asked for clarification on the requirements for the construction and operation of dams and a
clarification of a catastrophic situation.
Harry Thomas, Public Works Director, stated the Villa Park Dam was built in the 1970s, in
response to the flood damage in 1969, and was intended to deal with flooding by regulating the
flow of the creek. This is a rolled earth dam with a spillway and a tunnel and is highly resistant
to earthquakes. The peak runoff is regulated and it also has a spillway so if the water level rises
behind the dam it can be discharged through the spillway. It is designed for a maximum event
with a level of flood protection for a 100 year flood according to the FEMA standards. There is
always some risk associated with any man-made structure, but the risk is low. The inundation
map is not intended to be used as a land use device, but outlines evacuation procedures; and, in
fact, the area of inundation from the Villa Park Dam covers a fairly extensive portion of Orange,
particularly east of the SR-55 Freeway. The design level is up to current standards and these
dams do come under the jurisdiction of the State Department of Water Resources, Division of
Dam Safety, for inspections. Because it is operated as a flood control facility and not a water
supply facility, the water level behind the dam is kept quite low.
Mayor pro tern Cavecche asked about the monitoring of the methane after the development is
built and clarified there was a mitigation measure for vector control on the bioswales.
Ms. Angus stated the methane monitoring has not been determined and is still being discussed.
Mayor pro tern Cavecche asked about the creek and if there would be some sections of the trail
that are not going to be protected by the revetment wall and if there is erosion of the creek back
to the revetment walls, what agency is responsible for re-establishing the dirt and plants.
Ms. Angus stated the County is responsible for maintenance of the flood control facility, but
does acknowledge that ifthere is a storm that washes away the dirt and the plants within the area
of those buried revetment walls, such that the walls are no longer buried, the County is not
responsible for reestablishing the dirt and vegetation. She outlined the proposed trails, indicating
the area where there is no protection by the revetment; but that area is not a required trail on the
Master Plan of Recreational Trails.
In response to questions by Mayor pro tern Cavecche, Ms. Angus further outlined the various
agencies that would need to give final approval for this development, some of which include
Vector Control, the Local Enforcement Agency, Fish and Game Department, Army Corps of
Engineers, Regional Water Quality and Air Quality Control Board.
Mayor pro tern Cavecche asked about the northeast silt pond and how remediation, grading and
stabilization is handled.
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
Ms. Angus stated there is a proposal to remove all the silt on the Fieldstone side and do a sloped
revetment wall and toe it in. The developer has not submitted precise plans to the County, so the
City is still waiting for County approvals on the exact plan.
Mayor pro tern Cavecche asked about the water quality management plan for the project. She
also asked about how the bioswale system works and if there are bioswales north of the creek;
and asked for clarification if the storm drain system runs into the creek.
Harry Thomas, Public Works Director, stated the City Council recently modified the grading
ordinance to require compliance with the NPDES permits and documents, and a water quality
management plan would be required as part of this. There is a storm water pollution prevention
plan to cover construction activities and a water quality management plan that would have a
program of post construction, best management practices and the monitoring requirements
related to those and the responsibility for performing those activities. There is no water quality
management plan in place at this time With regard to the bioswales, the applicant will review
the details, but a basic concept of bioswales is to collect surface runoff before it gets into the
storm drain system. For the bioswales to be effective, there is about 72 hours of detention
required, so there has to be enough area available to achieve that detention, which limits the
amount of water that can be accommodated. There is no engineering plan for the bioswales at
this time - it will be part of the grading plan submittal. He also stated the storm drain system
would discharge into the creek.
TAPE 4070
Councilmember Alvarez asked ifthere was a potential for the walls to change once the developer
and County agree on how the flow of water will be mitigated.
Ms. Angus stated FEMA has analyzed all the data and is comfortable that the area of the 100
year flood plain no longer encompasses the proposed residential area. FEMA would not be
involved with flood control improvements, but rather Orange County Flood Control would. It is
possible there could be changes to the precise wall placement. The developer has come up with
a preliminary design, but things could change, and those plans need to get approval and comply
with the Orange County Flood Control District. Things may get changed a little, but the basic
design is one that the Flood Control District says works.
Councilmember Alvarez asked about the different wall treatments down the creek, from crib
walls to a more channelized creek, and if there could have been other alternatives other than a
revetment wall to be more environmentally friendly.
Ms. Angus agreed there are various creek treatments throughout the City. The Orange County
Flood Control District is concerned with moving water down the creek and easy maintenance,
but the City can provide input to have something that creates a more natural feel and negotiate
something that is adequate but also deals with aesthetics.
Councilmember Alvarez asked how FEMA and Orange County Flood Control notify the City
that all conditions have been satisfied.
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Ms. Angus stated the County will be taking over ownership of the part of the creek in the flood
control area, so the County will need to sign off before a final map is approved. The City has
made it clear that there needs to be a design that the Orange County Flood Control District will
accept and take ownership of.
Councilmember Alvarez asked about the proposed finish grade south of the creek. Because the
bioswales are located along the southern part of the creek, as they begin to catch runoff water, he
asked if the technology prevents it from going into the old dump site; and asked how a trench
serves as a bioswale, where they are located and are the bioswales a separate function. He
wanted to ensure there would not be seepage to the revetment wall or towards the old dump or
back to the homes.
Ms. Angus stated this has not been engineered yet, but there are requirements in place. She
described the bioswales as a grassy swale in a depressed area so that the nitrates and other
pollutants are absorbed and cleansed by the plants. The bioswales are located between the
homes and the revetment wall.
Mr. Thomas described the basic function of the bioswales. There is percolation into the
groundwater basin, which is a downward movement, and there will be some runoff from those
swales since there is a detention period. There would still be some runoff eventually reaching
the storm drain system or the creek. But because of the detention time, that water is filtered
through the plant material, before it runs into the storm drain system or the creek.
Councilmember Alvarez asked if the creek will be accessible to the general public.
Ms. Angus stated the trails running along the creek do provide some access to the creek; and
although nothing precludes access into the creek, it would not be proposed or encouraged from
an environmental standpoint.
Councilmember Alvarez asked about the grading south of the creek and the flow of the sewer
lines.
Ms. Angus stated the sewer line comes out to Santiago Canyon Road and there is enough
elevation for gravity feed because it is buried so deep; and there is no pump station proposed.
Councilmember Alvarez asked about the history of the dump site, and how far out the gas
mitigation measures will be.
Ms. Angus stated the mitigation measures refer to a 1000 foot boundary from the existing land
fill site; and the venting system is working to reduce the gas levels down to acceptable levels.
Mr. Thomas stated this was a County landfill which accepted inert and organic materials, with no
hazardous waste. The gas migration problem is due to decomposition of the organic material,
which generates methane gas. The typical way to deal with this is a monitoring system to
identify any movement and then a gas extractions system.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
TAPE 4720
In response to questions by Councilmember Ambriz, Mr. Thomas indicated this landfill was
similar to that at Y orba Park.
Councilmember Ambriz asked about the monitoring and if there was an agreement in place for
monitoring or ifthis is automatically done.
Ms. Angus stated there is not a signed agreement at this time, but staff is working on specific
language for a condition. If a private engineering firm were to do the monitoring, the applicant
would pay for that with an agreement in place.
Councilmember Ambriz asked about the revetment walls and the fact that the Orange County
Flood Control District has to approve this. He noted it has been said that if the walls are
designed as proposed, the County would be willing to take on responsibility. However, what
about the responsibility if the walls are not designed as proposed.
Ms. Angus stated the amount of protection and the type of protection was acceptable to the
County, if done as proposed. There are some areas where other walls are proposed and it's an
engineering decision as to what fits and allows the least amount of disruption to the channel.
That is the area of negation and the City is looking at the least disruption to the channel.
TAPE 4890
Councilmember Coontz stated the City has learned a lot about what it wants for creeks; and has
moved up environmentally and aesthetically. For the project off of Tustin, where the old golf
course was, it was the City who made the requirement to make the creek as part of the project.
The City had to work with a nnmber of agencies for that project off of Tustin. The request of the
City engendered a whole host of activities. She is very interested in Santiago Creek and the trails
and there are now many more agencies with their requirements but the City now has an idea of
what it wants.
Ms. Angus spoke on the wall treatment and the aesthetics of the treatment. While the City does
not have an adopted plan, the direction to the developer is that the City wants a natural looking
creek and not cleared of vegetation, but provides flood protection and facilities as part of that
flood protection system that Orange County Flood Control would be willing to take over. There
is a condition of approval that stipulates that the developer needs to give the City a plan that has
been approved by the Flood Control District and an irrevocable offer from the Flood Control
District to take over that improvement. This is a slow process with the agencies.
Applicant Presentation
TAPE 5050
Steve Cameron, Fieldstone, provided a power point presentation, submitting copies of the
presentation; and introduced their team of consultants.
Mr. Cameron, in response to questions from Councilmember Alvarez, stated the project does
sewer into Santiago Canyon Road. Even though the elevation is higher, no pump is required
because it is buried so deep.
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
Mr. Cameron reviewed the alternative plan, which is their preferred plan, which increases the
number of lots from 180 to 183, deletes the nine one-acre lots and provides one professionally
managed horse stable rather than nine privately owned stables.
He spoke on the issue of SMARA, the Surface Mining and Reclamation Act of 1975, and
whether it pertains to this property. It has been determined by the State and City Attorney that
SMARA does not apply to this property.
He reviewed the existing and proposed land uses and zoning for the property and reviewed the
Mabury portion of the proposal, which is north of the creek. The average lot size north of the
creek is approximately 12,000 square feet, although it is zoned R-1-8. They have made
considerable revisions to the plan in response to neighborhood concerns, have lowered the grade
10 to 12 feet below Mabury and are proposing single family homes adjacent to Mabury.
He also reviewed the stable site and amenities, which is 100 yards away from the adjacent
development and at a lower grade. He reviewed the proposed 2.5 mile trail system, which is in
excess of what is required in the Master Plan of Recreational Trails. He also explained it is their
intent to leave the creek as a natural space with access to the public.
He addressed a concern about what control the City has to make sure that the Flood Control
District is satisfied with the revetment wall. There is a condition of approval that says the City
will not issue a grading permit until the City has received approved plans from the Flood Control
District.
Councilmember Alvarez asked about the technology and construction of the bioswales, the
revetment wall and how the trails fit in with that.
Patti Sexton, Tetra Tech Engineering, reviewed the flood plain maps indicating FEMA has
updated the maps which indicate the proposed improvements are outside of the 100 year flood
plain area. She reviewed the dam inundation areas, indicating the dam inundation plan is to
enable emergency services personnel to identify potential evacuation routes in the event of a
potential dam failure and not intended to serve as a land use or zoning instrument.
Ms. Sexton reviewed water quality issues and water runoff management plan. She explained the
purpose of the bioswales is to treat water, both the low flow runoff and the first flush of a storm.
The intent is to put the dirtiest part of the water into the swale. The water goes through the
grassy swale which acts like a filter before it goes into the storm drain. The developer will be
working with the storm drainage plan and make sure the size of the swales meets current
regulations. The swale focuses on filtering rather than percolating. As the water passes through
the swale, the pollutants are either taken out by the grass or they get stuck to the grass. It is not
a seepage issue but more of a flowing through the grassy swale before it gets into the storm drain
and then the storm drain takes the cleaned up water to the creek.
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
Ms. Sexton reviewed the erosion protection plan and alternatives for the creek. They chose what
was the most environmentally sensitive and something that would preserve the existing habitat
and keep it natural looking.
Mayor pro tern Cavecche asked for clarification on how the water swales will work in this
particular development, how the water will get from the street into the swales when there is a line
of houses in the way.
Ms. Sexton explained a lot of the details of the final drainage system are not worked out, but the
basic concept is that the water goes along the street and there are certain places where the water
is pulled into the swales before it gets into the storm drain. There are storm drain easements
where water can be directed through.
TAPE TWO
Councilmember Coontz noted a more detailed map will need to be provided since this has not
been engineered.
John Sepich, Methane Specialists Corporation, reviewed the issues relating to the land fill. The
proposed mitigation measures have been reviewed by the County Health Care Agency who has
determined the measures would address public safety hazards. He reviewed the landfill gas
extraction system on the landfill site, indicating that Fieldstone is proposing installation of an
underground passive gas venting system below the recompacted soil which is over and above
normal requirements. The proposed homes within 1000 feet of the landfill will be protected by a
three-step process - the county's existing extraction system, the passive extraction system built
by Fieldstone and a liner under the slab of all structures within 1000 feet. He noted there are
proposed measures which equal or exceed County requirements, and this project will be safe
from methane gas.
Mr. Steve Cameron reviewed the acoustical analysis. There will be a six foot berm and six foot
wall along Santiago Canyon, which will also wrap around the entrance, reducing noise levels to
the homes near Santiago Canyon. In response to Council questions, he noted the proposed trail
will be between the road and the berm.
Mr. Cameron reviewed the fiscal impact analysis, indicating the proposal will generate revenue
for the City. He then reviewed the proposed park improvements which include a baseball field,
soccer field, tot lot area, picnic areas, a restroom building and parking lot. He stated they have
been in discussions with staff, and they will agree to fund the City's improvement of this
proposed park up to $2.1 million with the issuance of a Community Facilities District on this
project. This would allow the park to be built by the City right away; and is in addition to the
information provided to the Council. He reviewed regional open space, indicating this
development is a very small parcel compared with the 55,000 acres of nearby open space; noting
that development is the economic engine that drives the benefit of parks.
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
Mr. Cameron stated they have spoken with the School District. The School District has done a
Needs Analysis and determined this site may be a good site for a middle school. Mr. Cameron
indicated, however, that the School District needs to determine if this is even a suitable site for a
school.
Councilmember Alvarez stated the School District has made it clear what they are interested in
regarding this site, and asked Mr. Cameron if they have entertained options in their discussions
with the School District.
Mr. Cameron stated they have had discussions with the School District, and will probably have
more, and will be talking with them about a lot of different solutions. But the School District
needs to first determine if this is a suitable site for a school, from a lot of different aspects. But
they will work with the School District.
David DeBerry, City Attorney, stated the needs of the School District is not an issue that is
before the Council and not relevant to this discussion.
MAYOR MURPHY OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING
The following people spoke in favor of the Appeal. Their concerns included: growth in Orange
County requires additional housing supply; the developer has done everything to meet
mitigation concerns; Mabury Homeowners Association does not represent all Mabury Ranch
residents; this development will add to property values in the area; this is a better use of the
property than the existing sand and gravel operation; the developer will take steps to remediate
the landfill; this is not a suitable school site; a proposed signal at the entrance to the
development will slow down traffic on Santiago Canyon Road; and the developer is donating six
acres for a park and is including an equestrian center and trails.
. Mike Balsamo, 17744 Skypark Circle, Irvine, representing Building Industry Association
. Bob Walters, 3400 Westridge
. William McCullugh, P. O. Box 4116, Long Beach, representing Sully Miller Land Company
. Richard McFarlane, 1982 N. Mammoth Circle
. Pam Rosenbery, 1634 River Birch
. Tom Davidson, address on file
. Marty Poort, address on file, submitted petition containing approximately 336 signatures in
support of the Appeal.
. Vince Feragamo, address on file,
The following people spoke in opposition to the Appeal. Their concerns included: public safety
and health risks are at stake with adjacent landfill and dam inundation; the site has been
designated for years as open space; the financial study is flawed; there is a need for more open
space; the flood level at this point is 17 to 20 feet; adjacent landfill will create leakage
problems, methane migration problems will require constant monitoring; 6,000 square foot lots
are too small for that area; if the project is approved, suggestions were made to straighten
Santiago Canyon Road, provide a buffer zone between Mabury and the development, preserve
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13. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
and protect the existing trees along Mabury, provide replacement trees with at least 24" box
trees and the homes north of the creek should all be single story.
. Dan Slater, 278 N. Pine St. presented a conceptual plan for a park.
. Phil Arst, address on file, will mail in financial study
. Mike Spurgeon, address on file, submitted list of conditions if project were approved.
. Jim Obermayer, 6219 E. Shenandoah, Chairman, Mabury Homeowners Association
. Susan Obermayer, President, Mabury Homeowners Assoc.
. Shirley Grindle, address on file,
. Allen Danzig, 946 N. Capistrano
. Arlen Craig, address on file
. Nick Terpstra, Jamestown Way
David DeBerry, City Attorney, pointed out that while the public may encourage the use of the
property for a park, this is not relevant to this hearing and can not be discussed unless the City is
willing to buy the property for a park.
The following people spoke on a neutral position.
. Torn Anderson, address on file, President of the Equestrian Coalition of Orange County -
submitted letter to Council.
. Rick Ledesma, 129 S. Swidler Place, Orange Unified School District Board Member,
discussed the 20 acres and requested Council to direct staff to work with District officials to
achieve a school site on this property.
Mayor Murphy suggested the public hearing be continued because of the late hour. He
announced that he still had approximately 40 to 45 cards from people wishing to speak on this
item and everybody who had submitted a card will have an opportunity to speak at the next
meeting. Those cards will be completed and the public hearing will be closed from there. With
the consensus of the Council, the public hearing was continued to August 12, 2003 at 7:00 p.m.
The public hearing remains open.
14. PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENT - None.
15. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION - Alvarez
SECOND - Ambriz
AYES - Ambriz, Alvarez, Mayor Murphy, Coontz, Cavecche
The City Council adjourned at 11 :05 p.m.
2003.
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